{"id":9666,"date":"2015-07-03T08:25:07","date_gmt":"2015-07-03T13:25:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/olduvai.ca\/?p=9666"},"modified":"2015-07-03T08:25:07","modified_gmt":"2015-07-03T13:25:07","slug":"greece-the-bad-apple-of-the-bunch","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/?p=9666","title":{"rendered":"Greece: the bad apple of the bunch?"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3 class=\"post-title entry-title\"><a href=\"http:\/\/cassandralegacy.blogspot.ca\/2015\/07\/greece-not-bad-apple-of-bunch.html\" target=\"_blank\">Greece: the bad apple of the bunch?<\/a><\/h3>\n<div class=\"post-header\">\n<div class=\"post-header-line-1\"><span class=\"post-author vcard\">Posted by\u00a0<span class=\"fn\">Ugo Bardi<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"post-body-8231159292322348215\" class=\"post-body entry-content\">\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<div class=\"separator\"><a href=\"http:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/-8XJOiL21nJ0\/VZVk-_KR-1I\/AAAAAAAAOrw\/Sm9Lz69PbNA\/s1600\/276012123_6177ea81b0_z.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/-8XJOiL21nJ0\/VZVk-_KR-1I\/AAAAAAAAOrw\/Sm9Lz69PbNA\/s320\/276012123_6177ea81b0_z.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"320\" height=\"240\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/vickyb\/276012123\/in\/photolist-7BnCSF-qkK8ui-837dh-fFHWwF-7EVRRS-78xzta-78BsuN-78xzG8-78BsMs-78xzkV-78BsTA-3yM9V1-836U5-itiGXW-7sYzB-qoCMH-6JohBB-jDZ8aA-7KhAu-6jYDAe-5fvvNQ-837oG-7gPhpW-awQoT1-89tUWJ-66YU6J-fUsAmS-pP2aE2-gVb9Sh-77gj4X-78Sm7y-wVi6M-pCpQJf-oB5Jdg-8gPzxL-fFcepM-a4wtpN-84qTno-cXsCiW-7wmuH1-dtYw89-58q22-pcsShh-62xg5j-4vcjAf-9qWHPp-4vcjKj-6WHjoS-4v8eDZ-6AUmmP\" target=\"_blank\"><i>Image by Vicky Brock<\/i><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The present debate about the Greek financial situation tends often<i>\u00a0<\/i>\u00a0to pit Greece against the rest of the Eurozone. As an example,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/joergen-oerstroem-moeller\/the-greek-crisis-explaine_b_7634564.html\" target=\"_blank\">Joergen\u00a0<span id=\"09ae8ce3-eac4-4ec2-ba92-454ef3cff98b\" class=\"GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark\"><span id=\"2179da03-5f17-4e24-b4ea-8f607bd6d899\" class=\"GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark\">Oerstrom<\/span><\/span>\u00a0Moeller<\/a>\u00a0writes that:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">Since 2010 the Eurozone economy has turned around from contraction to growth &#8211; the growth forecast for 2015 is 1.5 percent, work to set up a banking union is well under way, and measures constituting\u00a0<span id=\"86eacc9f-ec02-4fff-bbf5-fd885e5dcbb0\" class=\"GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark\"><span id=\"bbf7adb8-917a-43d5-a88f-be1802be501e\" class=\"GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark\">bulwarks<\/span><\/span>\u00a0have been put in place. The little stroke\u00a0<span id=\"804eadcd-2639-4188-b5bc-0f925f593a97\" class=\"GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark\"><span id=\"379fe578-32fd-477b-bfa4-668ea1f6e08d\" class=\"GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark\">can fell<\/span><\/span>\u00a0great\u00a0<span id=\"5184c888-6a41-4d92-a8c2-9ca84edf3406\" class=\"GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark\"><span id=\"a8957aa2-ade2-40f2-ad7f-42907f684bbe\" class=\"GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark\">oakes<\/span><\/span>was a proverb that ominously sounded in the corridors 4-5 year ago; not any longer.<\/p>\n<p><span id=\"bbdc6d06-935f-48c9-a9af-f5f86ee85ed7\" class=\"GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark\"><span id=\"50a7d8b0-043b-445e-afc4-b6170fa4777d\" class=\"GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark\">and<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">Unless Greece is willing to restructure its\u00a0<span id=\"7fd75e9f-a4c5-4e59-b42d-c77acb934b20\" class=\"GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark\"><span id=\"60c79b3c-620b-400e-8bbb-7afd0dd69508\" class=\"GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark\">economy implementing<\/span><\/span>\u00a0policy objectives and instruments used by the majority of the EU member countries why should the Eurozone bail it out? What is the virtue of having a member that consistently and continually refuse to bring its economy into a shape similar to the one that the rest of the club is\u00a0<span id=\"5ced91e2-fbc9-43c3-8e6e-4e9d99635851\" class=\"GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark\"><span id=\"a283a7c9-9c22-4881-9320-bdd8f5830ea6\" class=\"GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark\">running<\/span><\/span>. Ireland, Portugal, Spain, and Italy have all gone through painful reforms and been rewarded with a much improved economic situation and a promising outlook for the future. What are the arguments for not asking Greece to do the same?<\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\nUnfortunately, the data tell a different story. Greece is not alone in having economic problems and all the Southern European countries tend to show similar trends. For\u00a0<span id=\"94beb9ea-8ca4-4eec-be32-d4843837539b\" class=\"GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark\"><span id=\"2f18028e-453f-44c3-b318-1130bbf61de0\" class=\"GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark\">instance in<\/span><\/span>\u00a0terms of\u00a0<span id=\"234d6894-9da7-4345-966d-eba379b35329\" class=\"GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark\"><span id=\"a3e9a8dd-80a5-4155-a48a-e4f76ea96b2a\" class=\"GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark\">GdP<\/span><\/span>\u00a0per capita, the Greek decline is sharper than that of the others, but not qualitatively different.\u00a0(<span id=\"35fecff6-0af6-4a2a-a233-374372d26247\" class=\"GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark\"><span id=\"69bbb297-d207-434d-ab4d-24b005e72e48\" class=\"GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark\">image<\/span><\/span>\u00a0from Google public data)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-6sC8dlVbA2Q\/VZVhzcrulaI\/AAAAAAAAOrk\/OCOhR5hYxBk\/s1600\/GdPSouthEurope.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-6sC8dlVbA2Q\/VZVhzcrulaI\/AAAAAAAAOrk\/OCOhR5hYxBk\/s640\/GdPSouthEurope.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"332\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If this were not enough, take a look at the industrial production data (from\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/bilbo.economicoutlook.net\/blog\/?p=29245\">Bilbo Economic Outlook<\/a>). Greece is sinking, yes, but so are Italy and Spain, and France is hardly doing better.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<p>&#8230;click on the above link to read the rest of the article&#8230;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Greece: the bad apple of the bunch? Posted by\u00a0Ugo Bardi Image by Vicky Brock The present debate about the Greek financial situation tends often\u00a0\u00a0to pit Greece against the rest of the Eurozone. As an example,\u00a0Joergen\u00a0Oerstrom\u00a0Moeller\u00a0writes that: Since 2010 the Eurozone economy has turned around from contraction to growth &#8211; the growth forecast for 2015 is [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[195,200,1752,240,279,285,1167,3512,2692],"class_list":["post-9666","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-economics","tag-debt","tag-default","tag-economic-contraction","tag-economic-growth","tag-eu","tag-eurozone","tag-greece","tag-resource-crisis","tag-ugo-bardi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9666","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=9666"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9666\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":9667,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9666\/revisions\/9667"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=9666"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=9666"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=9666"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}