{"id":68141,"date":"2024-05-17T15:22:30","date_gmt":"2024-05-17T20:22:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/?p=68141"},"modified":"2024-05-17T15:22:30","modified_gmt":"2024-05-17T20:22:30","slug":"culling-for-climate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/?p=68141","title":{"rendered":"Culling for Climate"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"post-header\">\n<h3 class=\"post-title unpublished\"><a href=\"https:\/\/rogerpielkejr.substack.com\/p\/culling-for-climate\">Culling for Climate<\/a><\/h3>\n<p class=\"subtitle\"><strong>Climate research and its misanthropic sect<\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"pencraft pc-display-flex pc-flexDirection-column pc-paddingBottom-16 pc-reset\">\n<div class=\"pencraft pc-display-flex pc-flexDirection-column pc-paddingTop-16 pc-paddingBottom-16 pc-reset\">\n<div class=\"pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-12 pc-alignItems-center pc-reset byline-wrapper\">\n<div class=\"pencraft pc-display-flex pc-reset\">\n<div class=\"pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-alignItems-center _flexGrow_1w60r_230 pc-reset facepile\">\n<div class=\"pencraft pc-display-flex pc-alignItems-center pc-reset\">\n<div class=\"pencraft pc-display-flex pc-alignItems-center pc-reset _faces_1civs_7 _size-40_1civs_15\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"available-content\">\n<div class=\"body markup\" dir=\"auto\">\n<div class=\"captioned-image-container\">\n<figure>\n<div class=\"image2-inset\"><picture><source srcset=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac909feb-0130-4ff5-a71f-895879081589_670x400.png 424w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac909feb-0130-4ff5-a71f-895879081589_670x400.png 848w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac909feb-0130-4ff5-a71f-895879081589_670x400.png 1272w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac909feb-0130-4ff5-a71f-895879081589_670x400.png 1456w\" type=\"image\/webp\" sizes=\"100vw\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"sizing-normal\" src=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac909feb-0130-4ff5-a71f-895879081589_670x400.png\" sizes=\"100vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac909feb-0130-4ff5-a71f-895879081589_670x400.png 424w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac909feb-0130-4ff5-a71f-895879081589_670x400.png 848w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac909feb-0130-4ff5-a71f-895879081589_670x400.png 1272w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac909feb-0130-4ff5-a71f-895879081589_670x400.png 1456w\" alt=\"\" width=\"612\" height=\"365.3731343283582\" data-attrs=\"{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/ac909feb-0130-4ff5-a71f-895879081589_670x400.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:400,&quot;width&quot;:670,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:612,&quot;bytes&quot;:445005,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image\/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null}\" \/><\/picture><\/div><figcaption class=\"image-caption\">It\u2019s the smell<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p>Over the weekend, Bill McGuire, an Emeritus Professor of Geophysical &amp; Climate Hazards at University College London, set X\/Twitter afire with the following Tweet, which foresees the \u201cculling of the human population\u201d as the \u201conly realistic\u201d way to address climate change \u2014 a Tweet which he later deleted:<\/p>\n<div class=\"captioned-image-container\">\n<figure>\n<div class=\"image2-inset\"><picture><source srcset=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef4fdd4a-64e9-4c71-aff1-272041d4fc85_420x342.png 424w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef4fdd4a-64e9-4c71-aff1-272041d4fc85_420x342.png 848w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef4fdd4a-64e9-4c71-aff1-272041d4fc85_420x342.png 1272w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef4fdd4a-64e9-4c71-aff1-272041d4fc85_420x342.png 1456w\" type=\"image\/webp\" sizes=\"100vw\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"sizing-normal\" src=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef4fdd4a-64e9-4c71-aff1-272041d4fc85_420x342.png\" sizes=\"100vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef4fdd4a-64e9-4c71-aff1-272041d4fc85_420x342.png 424w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef4fdd4a-64e9-4c71-aff1-272041d4fc85_420x342.png 848w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef4fdd4a-64e9-4c71-aff1-272041d4fc85_420x342.png 1272w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef4fdd4a-64e9-4c71-aff1-272041d4fc85_420x342.png 1456w\" alt=\"\" width=\"478\" height=\"389.22857142857146\" data-attrs=\"{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/ef4fdd4a-64e9-4c71-aff1-272041d4fc85_420x342.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:342,&quot;width&quot;:420,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:478,&quot;bytes&quot;:189523,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image\/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null}\" \/>climat<\/picture><\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p>The issue of \u201coverpopulation\u201d is one that has long been present in the climate science community, but is rarely discussed in public in the stark terms employed by McGuire. Yes, I put the word \u201coverpopulation\u201d into scare quotes because it is not a meaningful analytical concept but it is one with a lot of symbolic baggage.<span class=\"footnote-hovercard-target\"><a id=\"footnote-anchor-1-144566241\" class=\"footnote-anchor\" href=\"https:\/\/rogerpielkejr.substack.com\/p\/culling-for-climate#footnote-1-144566241\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"noopener\" data-component-name=\"FootnoteAnchorToDOM\">1<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t want to be too harsh on McGuire as he simply articulated what some in the climate science community actually believe and had the unfortunate experience of committing a\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wiktionary.org\/wiki\/Kinsley_gaffe\" rel=\"\">Kinsley gaffe<\/a>. A view that climate change is really about overpopulation is not that uncommon among climate researchers.<\/p>\n<p>Let\u2019s go back in time.<\/p>\n<p>Writing in 1990, only two years after the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) was created and two years before the Rio Earth Summit, atmospheric scientist and president of the National Academy of Engineering,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.jstor.org\/stable\/pdf\/25658555.pdf\" rel=\"\">Robert M. White<\/a><span class=\"footnote-hovercard-target\"><a id=\"footnote-anchor-2-144566241\" class=\"footnote-anchor\" href=\"https:\/\/rogerpielkejr.substack.com\/p\/culling-for-climate#footnote-2-144566241\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"noopener\" data-component-name=\"FootnoteAnchorToDOM\">2<\/a><\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.jstor.org\/stable\/pdf\/25658555.pdf\" rel=\"\">\u00a0warned that<\/a>,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The climate warming issue has also become a surrogate for other agendas. . . [Proponents argue that] because population growth is at the root of the environmental pressures being experienced by the world, prospects for stabilizing the climate and arresting the deterioration of the habitability of the planet are hopeless, argue the proponents, without population control.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Indeed, writing just one year later, the late\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1016\/0959-3780(91)90054-W\" rel=\"\">Stephen Schneider suggested several strategies for addressing climate change<\/a>\u00a0including \u201ccurtailing population growth\u201d and<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cin developing countries they involve forsaking fossil fuels as a basis for development, as well as dramatic slashing of population growth rates as a strategy for addressing climate change.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&#8230;click on the above link to read the rest of the article&#8230;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Culling for Climate Climate research and its misanthropic sect It\u2019s the smell Over the weekend, Bill McGuire, an Emeritus Professor of Geophysical &amp; Climate Hazards at University College London, set X\/Twitter afire with the following Tweet, which foresees the \u201cculling of the human population\u201d as the \u201conly realistic\u201d way to address climate change \u2014 a [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[4,7],"tags":[140,141,2956,5161,440,27831,606,5976,8011,30429,34393],"class_list":["post-68141","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-environment","category-survival-2","tag-climate","tag-climate-change","tag-climate-science","tag-intergovernmental-panel-on-climate-change","tag-ipcc","tag-malthusianism","tag-overpopulation","tag-population-bomb","tag-population-control","tag-roger-pielke-jr","tag-the-honest-broker"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/68141","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=68141"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/68141\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":68142,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/68141\/revisions\/68142"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=68141"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=68141"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=68141"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}