{"id":67662,"date":"2024-04-27T14:52:19","date_gmt":"2024-04-27T19:52:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/?p=67662"},"modified":"2024-04-27T14:52:19","modified_gmt":"2024-04-27T19:52:19","slug":"how-far-can-the-yen-fall-before-japan-goes-bankrupt","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/?p=67662","title":{"rendered":"How Far Can The Yen Fall Before Japan Goes Bankrupt?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"post-header\">\n<h3 class=\"post-title unpublished\"><a href=\"https:\/\/rubino.substack.com\/p\/how-far-can-the-yen-fall-before-japan\">How Far Can The Yen Fall Before Japan Goes Bankrupt?<\/a><\/h3>\n<p class=\"subtitle\"><strong>We may be about to find out<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\n<div class=\"available-content\">\n<div class=\"body markup\" dir=\"auto\">\n<p>Japan\u2019s ongoing march to national bankruptcy has been a recurring theme here. See:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/rubino.substack.com\/p\/japan-is-in-that-box\" rel=\"\">Japan Is In That Box<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/rubino.substack.com\/p\/japan-takes-another-step-towards\" rel=\"\">Japan Takes Another Step Towards the Cliff<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/rubino.substack.com\/p\/how-a-country-goes-bankrupt-in-10\" rel=\"\">How a Country Goes Bankrupt, In 10 Steps<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Now the death spiral has entered a new phase, with the yen\/dollar exchange rate heading straight down:<\/p>\n<div class=\"captioned-image-container\">\n<figure>\n<div class=\"image2-inset\"><picture><source srcset=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6145c617-4f9a-466a-b521-d67667a06708_1100x640.jpeg 424w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6145c617-4f9a-466a-b521-d67667a06708_1100x640.jpeg 848w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6145c617-4f9a-466a-b521-d67667a06708_1100x640.jpeg 1272w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6145c617-4f9a-466a-b521-d67667a06708_1100x640.jpeg 1456w\" type=\"image\/webp\" sizes=\"100vw\" \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"sizing-normal\" src=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6145c617-4f9a-466a-b521-d67667a06708_1100x640.jpeg\" sizes=\"auto, 100vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6145c617-4f9a-466a-b521-d67667a06708_1100x640.jpeg 424w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6145c617-4f9a-466a-b521-d67667a06708_1100x640.jpeg 848w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6145c617-4f9a-466a-b521-d67667a06708_1100x640.jpeg 1272w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6145c617-4f9a-466a-b521-d67667a06708_1100x640.jpeg 1456w\" alt=\"\" width=\"1100\" height=\"640\" data-attrs=\"{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/6145c617-4f9a-466a-b521-d67667a06708_1100x640.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:640,&quot;width&quot;:1100,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:91444,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image\/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null}\" \/><\/picture><\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p>To restate the \u201cJapan collapse\u201d thesis, soaring government debt will eventually cause the yen to crater and\/or interest rates to spike. The Bank of Japan will then face an impossible choice: Support the yen with even higher interest rates and watch government interest expense rise to national bankruptcy levels. Or push interest rates down to keep a lid on debt costs and cause the yen to collapse.<\/p>\n<p>As the above chart illustrates, the \u201ccause the yen to collapse\u201d part of the story seems to be happening. Interest rates, meanwhile, are now spiking in a mirror image of the yen\u2019s collapse.<\/p>\n<div class=\"captioned-image-container\">\n<figure>\n<div class=\"image2-inset\"><picture><source srcset=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd41b8bb1-fd2d-49a2-b866-f79db4b093d9_935x432.jpeg 424w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd41b8bb1-fd2d-49a2-b866-f79db4b093d9_935x432.jpeg 848w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd41b8bb1-fd2d-49a2-b866-f79db4b093d9_935x432.jpeg 1272w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd41b8bb1-fd2d-49a2-b866-f79db4b093d9_935x432.jpeg 1456w\" type=\"image\/webp\" sizes=\"100vw\" \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"sizing-normal\" src=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd41b8bb1-fd2d-49a2-b866-f79db4b093d9_935x432.jpeg\" sizes=\"auto, 100vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd41b8bb1-fd2d-49a2-b866-f79db4b093d9_935x432.jpeg 424w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd41b8bb1-fd2d-49a2-b866-f79db4b093d9_935x432.jpeg 848w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd41b8bb1-fd2d-49a2-b866-f79db4b093d9_935x432.jpeg 1272w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd41b8bb1-fd2d-49a2-b866-f79db4b093d9_935x432.jpeg 1456w\" alt=\"\" width=\"935\" height=\"432\" data-attrs=\"{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/d41b8bb1-fd2d-49a2-b866-f79db4b093d9_935x432.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:432,&quot;width&quot;:935,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:68954,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image\/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null}\" \/><\/picture><\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"header-with-anchor-widget\"><strong>Decision Time<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>So it\u2019s decision time for Japan\u2019s leaders. What will they choose? And \u2014 more importantly \u2014 what happens when the global financial system realizes that\u00a0<em>it no longer matters?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Japan is a big country, so its impending crisis creates risks for the global economy. But it\u2019s more important as a signal to the US, Europe, and China that we\u2019re heading in exactly the same direction.<\/p>\n<p>In other words, the Fed is in the same box as the Bank of Japan, and that box is shrinking with every new trillion dollars of debt.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>How Far Can The Yen Fall Before Japan Goes Bankrupt? We may be about to find out Japan\u2019s ongoing march to national bankruptcy has been a recurring theme here. See: Japan Is In That Box Japan Takes Another Step Towards the Cliff How a Country Goes Bankrupt, In 10 Steps Now the death spiral has [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[1361,1099,9024,7544,30990],"class_list":["post-67662","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-economics","tag-bankruptcy","tag-currency-devaluation","tag-japanese-yen","tag-john-rubino","tag-substack"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/67662","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=67662"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/67662\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":67663,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/67662\/revisions\/67663"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=67662"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=67662"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=67662"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}