{"id":62730,"date":"2022-05-24T14:58:24","date_gmt":"2022-05-24T19:58:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/?p=62730"},"modified":"2022-05-24T14:58:24","modified_gmt":"2022-05-24T19:58:24","slug":"limits-and-beyond-the-yawning-gap","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/?p=62730","title":{"rendered":"Limits and Beyond: The Yawning Gap"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"post-header\">\n<h3 class=\"post-title short unpublished\"><a href=\"https:\/\/netzero2050.substack.com\/p\/limits-and-beyond-chapter-1?s=r&amp;fbclid=IwAR2uZ8OonRP-jXxeG1X5CAce4ZzlSFjweXDKwC_BcBZSDV3X003zJgdlWxc\">Limits and Beyond: The Yawning Gap<\/a><\/h3>\n<p class=\"subtitle\"><strong>Chapter 1: The Story of an Idea<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"\">\n<div class=\"available-content\">\n<div class=\"body markup\" dir=\"auto\">\n<div class=\"captioned-image-container\">\n<figure><a class=\"image-link image2\" href=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3a19d6ff-19f6-4e82-a1fb-7a7a9b0bcf3d_227x346.jpeg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\"><picture><source srcset=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3a19d6ff-19f6-4e82-a1fb-7a7a9b0bcf3d_227x346.jpeg 424w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3a19d6ff-19f6-4e82-a1fb-7a7a9b0bcf3d_227x346.jpeg 848w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3a19d6ff-19f6-4e82-a1fb-7a7a9b0bcf3d_227x346.jpeg 1272w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3a19d6ff-19f6-4e82-a1fb-7a7a9b0bcf3d_227x346.jpeg 1456w\" type=\"image\/webp\" sizes=\"100vw\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"sizing-normal\" title=\"Limits and Beyond\" src=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3a19d6ff-19f6-4e82-a1fb-7a7a9b0bcf3d_227x346.jpeg\" sizes=\"100vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3a19d6ff-19f6-4e82-a1fb-7a7a9b0bcf3d_227x346.jpeg 424w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3a19d6ff-19f6-4e82-a1fb-7a7a9b0bcf3d_227x346.jpeg 848w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3a19d6ff-19f6-4e82-a1fb-7a7a9b0bcf3d_227x346.jpeg 1272w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3a19d6ff-19f6-4e82-a1fb-7a7a9b0bcf3d_227x346.jpeg 1456w\" alt=\"Limits and Beyond\" width=\"289\" height=\"440.5022026431718\" data-attrs=\"{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/3a19d6ff-19f6-4e82-a1fb-7a7a9b0bcf3d_227x346.jpeg&quot;,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:346,&quot;width&quot;:227,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:289,&quot;bytes&quot;:16606,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Limits and Beyond&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image\/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null}\" \/><\/picture><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p>The book\u00a0<em>Limits and Beyond,\u00a0<\/em>edited by Ugo Bardi and Jorgen Randers, provides a 50th anniversary review of the seminal report\u00a0<em>Limits to Growth<\/em>\u00a0(LtG). The following is from the back cover of the book.<\/p>\n<p><em>50 years ago the Club of Rome commissioned a report: Limits to Growth. They told us that, on our current path, we are heading for collapse in the first half of the 21st century. This book, published in the year 2022, reviews what has happened in the intervening time period. It asks three basic questions:<\/em><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em>Were their models right?<\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Why was there such a backlash?<\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>What did the world do about it?<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><em>The book consists of 19 chapters, each written by a different author, two of whom \u2014 Dennis Meadows and Jorgen Randers \u2014 were part of the team that wrote the report.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>In this post, we review the first chapter, written by Ugo Bardi. He says of the chapter,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The present section . . . tells the story of how the idea of civilization growth and collapse fared in history and how it was interpreted by the LtG study.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div class=\"captioned-image-container\">\n<figure><a class=\"image-link image2\" href=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d99a636-c661-4a4f-892e-b7b68df23067_283x283.jpeg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\"><picture><source srcset=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d99a636-c661-4a4f-892e-b7b68df23067_283x283.jpeg 424w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d99a636-c661-4a4f-892e-b7b68df23067_283x283.jpeg 848w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d99a636-c661-4a4f-892e-b7b68df23067_283x283.jpeg 1272w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d99a636-c661-4a4f-892e-b7b68df23067_283x283.jpeg 1456w\" type=\"image\/webp\" sizes=\"100vw\" \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"sizing-normal\" title=\"Ugo Bardi\" src=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d99a636-c661-4a4f-892e-b7b68df23067_283x283.jpeg\" sizes=\"auto, 100vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d99a636-c661-4a4f-892e-b7b68df23067_283x283.jpeg 424w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d99a636-c661-4a4f-892e-b7b68df23067_283x283.jpeg 848w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d99a636-c661-4a4f-892e-b7b68df23067_283x283.jpeg 1272w, https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d99a636-c661-4a4f-892e-b7b68df23067_283x283.jpeg 1456w\" alt=\"Ugo Bardi\" width=\"283\" height=\"283\" data-attrs=\"{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/0d99a636-c661-4a4f-892e-b7b68df23067_283x283.jpeg&quot;,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:283,&quot;width&quot;:283,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:84755,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Ugo Bardi&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image\/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null}\" \/><\/picture><\/a><figcaption class=\"image-caption\">Ugo Bardi<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>Historical Overview<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>This first chapter provides an excellent overview of the work of various scientists and authors that has led to our current understanding of physical limits and constraints. It shows how societies rise and fall, and how our current level of stable prosperity is so unusual. Starting with the 18th century authors Edward Gibbon and Thomas Malthus, Bardi describes the work of many analysts, including William Stanley Jevons, Rachel Carson, Aurelio Peccei, Jay Wright Forrester, M. King Hubbert and Joseph Tainter.<\/p>\n<p>He describes how the LtG report was received, and discusses possible reasons for the largely negative response at the time of publication. However, the report\u2019s insights seem to be increasingly relevant to today\u2019s world..<\/p>\n<p>\u2026click on the above link to read the rest of the article\u2026<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Limits and Beyond: The Yawning Gap Chapter 1: The Story of an Idea The book\u00a0Limits and Beyond,\u00a0edited by Ugo Bardi and Jorgen Randers, provides a 50th anniversary review of the seminal report\u00a0Limits to Growth\u00a0(LtG). The following is from the back cover of the book. 50 years ago the Club of Rome commissioned a report: Limits [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2,3,4],"tags":[32916,8431,32917,30573,485,2692],"class_list":["post-62730","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-economics","category-energy-2","category-environment","tag-carlos-alvarez-periera","tag-dennis-meadows","tag-ian-sutton","tag-jorgen-randers","tag-limits-to-growth","tag-ugo-bardi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/62730","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=62730"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/62730\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":62731,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/62730\/revisions\/62731"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=62730"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=62730"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=62730"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}