{"id":60597,"date":"2021-11-22T10:09:47","date_gmt":"2021-11-22T15:09:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/?p=60597"},"modified":"2021-11-22T10:09:47","modified_gmt":"2021-11-22T15:09:47","slug":"greenwashing-in-tuscany-hydrogen-trains","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/?p=60597","title":{"rendered":"Greenwashing in Tuscany: Hydrogen trains"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3 class=\"post-title entry-title\"><a href=\"https:\/\/thehydrogenskeptics.blogspot.com\/2021\/11\/greenwashing-in-tuscany-hydrogen-trains.html\">Greenwashing in Tuscany: Hydrogen trains<\/a><\/h3>\n<div class=\"post-header\">\n<div class=\"post-header-line-1\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"post-body-3974832062183056758\" class=\"post-body entry-content\">\n<div class=\"separator\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/a\/AVvXsEhzbRLIWFhEi02Gmhkz3O72sdyMq-pBja-VZBukYtYfLbtWFi_enJgkB9qS3HX-_DMZs9Ea-wr8BkLAKSi0YqKNcbNiSb4f97Qx-qiluR3iN4BafNEM96PcNBYt43ZG2UBamgVqWHED1wvsoq3xZuZsoS9lPSDlBlZDhMopvZbjYpHB4ewAeb1ufZok=s840\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/img\/a\/AVvXsEhzbRLIWFhEi02Gmhkz3O72sdyMq-pBja-VZBukYtYfLbtWFi_enJgkB9qS3HX-_DMZs9Ea-wr8BkLAKSi0YqKNcbNiSb4f97Qx-qiluR3iN4BafNEM96PcNBYt43ZG2UBamgVqWHED1wvsoq3xZuZsoS9lPSDlBlZDhMopvZbjYpHB4ewAeb1ufZok=w489-h363\" width=\"489\" height=\"363\" border=\"0\" data-original-height=\"625\" data-original-width=\"840\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p>Hydrogen as a magic word hits Tuscany again. Now, it is the turn of the &#8220;<i>Faentina<\/i>&#8221; railroad to be greenwashed. It is an old line that connects Florence to the city of\u00a0<i>Faenza\u00a0<\/i>on the other side of the\u00a0<i>Appennini\u00a0<\/i>mountains. Destroyed during WWII, it was considered a &#8220;dead branch&#8221; by the Italian authorities and not rebuilt until the 1990s. Even then, it was a work done in economy, it was not electrified and only old diesel powered locomotives run on it.<\/p>\n<p>But now, great idea! Politicians have started to say that we can make these same locomotives run on hydrogen! They say hydrogen is green, don&#8217;t they? Yes, so green that whatever you touch with it becomes well greenwashed.<\/p>\n<p>A brief comment by Dr Piero Mazzinghi, translated from Italian.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ilfilo.net\/dai-lettori-treni-a-idrogeno-troppe-cose-lasciano-dubbi\/\">https:\/\/www.ilfilo.net\/dai-lettori-treni-a-idrogeno-troppe-cose-lasciano-dubbi\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p><i>MUGELLO &#8211; Dr. Piero Mazzinghi of Vaglia makes some technical considerations about the use of hydrogen as a fuel for trains. And they are very critical and concerned considerations.<\/i><\/p>\n<p>I would like to make some technical considerations on the proposal to transform the Faentina railway to hydrogen and, in general, on the use of hydrogen as an energy vector (let&#8217;s remember that it must be produced, there are no hydrogen mines&#8230;).<\/p>\n<p>Currently almost all hydrogen is produced from hydrocarbons, by steam reforming methane or by gasification of coal with the Haber-Bosch process. The efficiency of both processes is around 70%. Hydrogen then, given its low density, to be used must be compressed at high pressure (at 700 atmospheres) or liquefied (at -252 \u00b0C), losing at least another 30% of energy. To power electric motors it must then be fed into fuel cells, which have an efficiency of around 50%. Now, a simple multiplication (0.7\u00d70.7\u00d70.25= 0.245) shows that the cycle efficiency is less than 25%, compared to an efficiency of a modern diesel engine ranging from 40 to 50%&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>\u2026click on the above link to read the rest of the article\u2026<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Greenwashing in Tuscany: Hydrogen trains Hydrogen as a magic word hits Tuscany again. Now, it is the turn of the &#8220;Faentina&#8221; railroad to be greenwashed. It is an old line that connects Florence to the city of\u00a0Faenza\u00a0on the other side of the\u00a0Appennini\u00a0mountains. 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