{"id":57225,"date":"2021-03-24T06:42:53","date_gmt":"2021-03-24T11:42:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/?p=57225"},"modified":"2021-03-24T06:53:40","modified_gmt":"2021-03-24T11:53:40","slug":"the-rise-fall-of-empires-nations-city-states-has-been-going-on-for-thousands-of-years-its-just-our-turn","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/?p=57225","title":{"rendered":"The Rise &#038; Fall of Empires, Nations, &#038; City States has been Going on for Thousands of Years \u2013 It\u2019s Just Our Turn!"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"pageTitle blogTitle\">\n<h3><a href=\"https:\/\/www.armstrongeconomics.com\/international-news\/revolution\/the-rise-fall-of-empires-nations-city-states-has-been-going-on-for-thousands-of-years-its-just-our-turn\/\">The Rise &amp; Fall of Empires, Nations, &amp; City States has been Going on for Thousands of Years \u2013 It\u2019s Just Our Turn!<\/a><\/h3>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mainContent\">\n<div class=\"contentWrap\">\n<div class=\"theContent\">\n<div class=\"mainContent\">\n<div class=\"contentWrap\">\n<div class=\"theContent\">\n<p><a class=\"fancybox image\" href=\"https:\/\/www.armstrongeconomics.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Herodotus-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-130172 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/www.armstrongeconomics.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Herodotus-1.jpg\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 347px) 100vw, 347px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.armstrongeconomics.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Herodotus-1.jpg 446w, https:\/\/www.armstrongeconomics.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Herodotus-1-228x300.jpg 228w, https:\/\/www.armstrongeconomics.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Herodotus-1-300x394.jpg 300w\" alt=\"\" width=\"347\" height=\"456\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>COMMENT:<\/strong>\u00a0Marty: I was re-reading Herodotus and saw early in his book a reference to the rise and fall of civilizations pertinent to the concept of capital flows:<\/p>\n<p>Herodotus, Histories 1:5<\/p>\n<p>\u201cFor many states that were once great have now become small; and those that were great in my time were small before. Knowing therefore that human prosperity never continues in the same place, I shall mention both alike.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Here is\u00a0the source for the above translation:<\/p>\n<p>http:\/\/www.perseus.tufts.edu\/hopper\/text.jsp?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0126%3Abook%3D1%3Achapter%3D5<\/p>\n<p>I studied Ancient Greek in college.\u00a0 \u201cProsperity\u201d is the proper translation of\u00a0 \u201cEudaimonia\u201d\u00a0(Greek: \u03b5\u1f50\u03b4\u03b1\u03b9\u03bc\u03bf\u03bd\u03af\u03b1) in this context.\u00a0 See also:<br \/>\nhttps:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Eudaimonia<\/p>\n<p>I thought you may find this of interest in case you hadn\u2019t noticed this before in your readings.<\/p>\n<p>Be well and thank you for your work and your continuous improvements of Socrates.<\/p>\n<p>DP<br \/>\nNYC<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"m_b_d59a1 font-headline-base\" data-automation=\"ImageDetailsPage_Details\"><a class=\"fancybox image\" href=\"https:\/\/www.armstrongeconomics.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Assyrian-Gate-2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-130191\" src=\"https:\/\/www.armstrongeconomics.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Assyrian-Gate-2.jpg\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 333px) 100vw, 333px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.armstrongeconomics.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Assyrian-Gate-2.jpg 333w, https:\/\/www.armstrongeconomics.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Assyrian-Gate-2-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.armstrongeconomics.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Assyrian-Gate-2-300x450.jpg 300w\" alt=\"\" width=\"333\" height=\"500\" \/><\/a><\/h2>\n<p><strong>Winged human-headed bulls, the powerful guardians of ancient Assyrian gateways, serving such a purpose for the royal palace of Nimrud.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>REPLY:<\/strong>\u00a0Yes, great to point that out. To put this in context for the non-Ancient historian, when Herodotus had written that, it was about 2,000 years after the rise and fall of the Sumer Empire, which is the earliest known civilization in the historical region of southern Mesopotamia. There were the Minoans, Troy, Greek Heroic Age, Babylon, and Cyrus the Great who conquered Lydia, the Hittites, and the Assyrians.<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"fancybox image\" href=\"https:\/\/www.armstrongeconomics.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Babylon-Gates-Berline.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-130182 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/www.armstrongeconomics.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Babylon-Gates-Berline.jpg\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 519px) 100vw, 519px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.armstrongeconomics.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Babylon-Gates-Berline.jpg 519w, https:\/\/www.armstrongeconomics.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Babylon-Gates-Berline-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.armstrongeconomics.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Babylon-Gates-Berline-165x110.jpg 165w\" alt=\"\" width=\"519\" height=\"346\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Civilization in its primeval state was already at least 6,000 years before Herodotus. It was ancient history to them of the Greek Heroic Age when Evander entertained the stranger of Troy&#8230;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>\u2026click on the above link to read the rest of the article\u2026<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Rise &amp; Fall of Empires, Nations, &amp; City States has been Going on for Thousands of Years \u2013 It\u2019s Just Our Turn! COMMENT:\u00a0Marty: I was re-reading Herodotus and saw early in his book a reference to the rise and fall of civilizations pertinent to the concept of capital flows: Herodotus, Histories 1:5 \u201cFor many [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[5496,138,2569,150,5479],"class_list":["post-57225","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-survival-2","tag-armstrong-economics","tag-civilisation","tag-civilisation-collapse","tag-collapse","tag-martin-armstrong"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/57225","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=57225"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/57225\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":57228,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/57225\/revisions\/57228"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=57225"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=57225"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=57225"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}