{"id":36708,"date":"2018-08-16T07:03:23","date_gmt":"2018-08-16T12:03:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/olduvai.ca\/?p=36708"},"modified":"2018-08-16T07:03:38","modified_gmt":"2018-08-16T12:03:38","slug":"an-eye-on-m1-cyclicals-and-junk-bonds-what-matters","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/?p=36708","title":{"rendered":"An Eye on M1, Cyclicals, and Junk Bonds: What Matters?"},"content":{"rendered":"<header>\n<div class=\"story-header-area\">\n<div class=\"clearfix\">\n<div class=\"story-header\">\n<h3><a href=\"https:\/\/moneymaven.io\/mishtalk\/economics\/an-eye-on-m1-cyclicals-and-junk-bonds-what-matters-V_JuNK2tekeO4EQRVESgBQ\/\">An Eye on M1, Cyclicals, and Junk Bonds: What Matters?<\/a><\/h3>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"photo\">\n<div class=\"renderable jss639 Center Large show\">\n<figure class=\"image\">\n<div class=\"jss238 picture loaded\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" title=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2FLKb_sk0cbEusXhEIicB6mA\" srcset=\"https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2FLKb_sk0cbEusXhEIicB6mA?w=684&amp;q=75&amp;h=540.6997840172786&amp;auto=format&amp;fit=crop 1x, https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2FLKb_sk0cbEusXhEIicB6mA?w=1026&amp;q=75&amp;h=811&amp;auto=format&amp;fit=crop 1.5x, https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2FLKb_sk0cbEusXhEIicB6mA?w=1368&amp;q=75&amp;h=1081&amp;auto=format&amp;fit=crop 2x, https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2FLKb_sk0cbEusXhEIicB6mA?w=2052&amp;q=75&amp;h=1622&amp;auto=format&amp;fit=crop 3x\" alt=\"\" width=\"684\" height=\"540.6997840172786\" \/><\/div><figcaption><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-summary\">\n<div class=\"publish-info\">\n<div class=\"authorCard jss650\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<section class=\"deck\">Rosenberg says &#8220;Keep an eye on M1&#8221;, others watch Cyclicals, and still others have an eye on junk bonds.<\/section>\n<\/div>\n<\/header>\n<article class=\"story-body clearfix\">\n<div class=\"body\">\n<div class=\"markdown\">\n<div>\n<div>\n<p><strong>An Eye on M1<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"renderable jss639 Center Large show\">\n<div class=\"tweet\">\n<div>\n<hr \/>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"observable\">\n<div id=\"ast-tag-in-message-2\" class=\"jss400 CONTENT_BREAK_DT ad-unit\">\n<article class=\"MediaCard MediaCard--mediaForward customisable-border\" dir=\"ltr\" data-scribe=\"component:card\">\n<div class=\"MediaCard-media\">\n<p><a class=\"MediaCard-borderOverlay\" tabindex=\"-1\" title=\"View image on Twitter\" role=\"presentation\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/EconguyRosie\/status\/1029425108815958016\/photo\/1\"><span class=\"u-hiddenVisually\">View image on Twitter<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"MediaCard-widthConstraint js-cspForcedStyle\" data-style=\"max-width: 800px\">\n<div class=\"MediaCard-mediaContainer js-cspForcedStyle\" data-style=\"padding-bottom: 75.5000%\"><a class=\"MediaCard-mediaAsset NaturalImage\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/EconguyRosie\/status\/1029425108815958016\/photo\/1\" data-scribe=\"element:photo\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"NaturalImage-image\" title=\"View image on Twitter\" src=\"https:\/\/pbs.twimg.com\/media\/DklAnTYXgAETtPk?format=jpg&amp;name=small\" alt=\"View image on Twitter\" width=\"800\" height=\"604\" data-image=\"https:\/\/pbs.twimg.com\/media\/DklAnTYXgAETtPk\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<div class=\"EmbeddedTweet-tweet\">\n<blockquote class=\"Tweet h-entry js-tweetIdInfo subject expanded\" cite=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/EconguyRosie\/status\/1029425108815958016\" data-tweet-id=\"1029425108815958016\" data-scribe=\"section:subject\">\n<div class=\"Tweet-header\"><a class=\"TweetAuthor-avatar Identity-avatar u-linkBlend\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/EconguyRosie\" data-scribe=\"element:user_link\" aria-label=\"David Rosenberg (screen name: EconguyRosie)\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"Avatar Avatar--edge\" src=\"https:\/\/pbs.twimg.com\/profile_images\/943118944893915136\/elXjEPpi_normal.jpg\" alt=\"\" data-scribe=\"element:avatar\" data-src-2x=\"https:\/\/pbs.twimg.com\/profile_images\/943118944893915136\/elXjEPpi_bigger.jpg\" data-src-1x=\"https:\/\/pbs.twimg.com\/profile_images\/943118944893915136\/elXjEPpi_normal.jpg\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"Tweet-body e-entry-content\" data-scribe=\"component:tweet\">\n<p class=\"Tweet-text e-entry-title\" dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">All of the monetary aggregates have slowed substantially, and real M1 growth\u00a0is flagging a 1% stall-speed growth economy once we get passed all the pre-tariff buying activity and fiscal sugar-high that skewed Q2 GDP.<\/p>\n<div class=\"Tweet-metadata dateline\"><a class=\"u-linkBlend u-url customisable-highlight long-permalink\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/EconguyRosie\/status\/1029425108815958016\" data-datetime=\"2018-08-14T17:50:46+0000\" data-scribe=\"element:full_timestamp\"><time class=\"dt-updated\" title=\"Time posted: August 14, 2018 17:50:46 (UTC)\" datetime=\"2018-08-14T17:50:46+0000\">1:50 PM &#8211; Aug 14, 2018<\/time><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<hr \/>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"markdown\">\n<p>The problem with this story is that it does not match the hype. Nor does M2.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"markdown\">\n<div>\n<div>\n<p><strong>Real M1 and M2<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"renderable jss639 Center Large show\">\n<figure class=\"image\">\n<div class=\"jss238 picture loaded\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" title=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2FV45d97Xz0EaQHHZbkinkoQ\" srcset=\"https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2FV45d97Xz0EaQHHZbkinkoQ?w=684&amp;q=75&amp;h=383.6235884567127&amp;auto=format&amp;fit=crop 1x, https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2FV45d97Xz0EaQHHZbkinkoQ?w=1026&amp;q=75&amp;h=575&amp;auto=format&amp;fit=crop 1.5x, https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2FV45d97Xz0EaQHHZbkinkoQ?w=1368&amp;q=75&amp;h=767&amp;auto=format&amp;fit=crop 2x, https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2FV45d97Xz0EaQHHZbkinkoQ?w=2052&amp;q=75&amp;h=1151&amp;auto=format&amp;fit=crop 3x\" alt=\"\" width=\"684\" height=\"383.6235884567127\" \/><\/div><figcaption><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"renderable jss639 Center Large show\">\n<figure class=\"image\">\n<div class=\"jss238 picture loaded\">\n<div class=\"observable\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" title=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2FxCAMCq_9NEiIrbkt3iAOAA\" srcset=\"https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2FxCAMCq_9NEiIrbkt3iAOAA?w=684&amp;q=75&amp;h=383.6235884567127&amp;auto=format&amp;fit=crop 1x, https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2FxCAMCq_9NEiIrbkt3iAOAA?w=1026&amp;q=75&amp;h=575&amp;auto=format&amp;fit=crop 1.5x, https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2FxCAMCq_9NEiIrbkt3iAOAA?w=1368&amp;q=75&amp;h=767&amp;auto=format&amp;fit=crop 2x, https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2FxCAMCq_9NEiIrbkt3iAOAA?w=2052&amp;q=75&amp;h=1151&amp;auto=format&amp;fit=crop 3x\" alt=\"\" width=\"684\" height=\"383.6235884567127\" \/><\/div>\n<\/div><figcaption><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"markdown\">\n<div>\n<div>\n<p><strong>Watching M1 is Useless<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"markdown\">\n<div>\n<div>\n<p>If we are supposed to keep an eye on M1, it sure is not clear why. The dashed lines above so instances in which M1 growth turned negative and nothing happened for years.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"markdown\">\n<div>\n<div>\n<p>I also added M2. It&#8217;s equally useless.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"markdown\">\n<div>\n<div>\n<p>Watching these monetary aggregates seems downright silly.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"markdown\">\n<div>\n<div>\n<p><strong>Cyclicals vs. Defensives<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"markdown\">\n<p>Seeking Alpha says <a href=\"https:\/\/seekingalpha.com\/article\/4198403-chart-week-cyclicals-vs-defensives-aka-markets-achilles-heel\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Cyclicals Vs. Defensives (Aka The Market&#8217;s Achilles&#8217; Heel)<\/a>.<\/p>\n<div class=\"renderable jss639 Center Large show\">\n<figure class=\"image\">\n<div class=\"jss238 picture loaded\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" title=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2FeCjfd1gEy0SRUx7pDMhziw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2FeCjfd1gEy0SRUx7pDMhziw?w=684&amp;q=75&amp;h=464.32876712328766&amp;auto=format&amp;fit=crop 1x, https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2FeCjfd1gEy0SRUx7pDMhziw?w=1026&amp;q=75&amp;h=696&amp;auto=format&amp;fit=crop 1.5x, https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2FeCjfd1gEy0SRUx7pDMhziw?w=1368&amp;q=75&amp;h=929&amp;auto=format&amp;fit=crop 2x, https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2FeCjfd1gEy0SRUx7pDMhziw?w=2052&amp;q=75&amp;h=1393&amp;auto=format&amp;fit=crop 3x\" alt=\"\" width=\"684\" height=\"464.32876712328766\" \/><\/div><figcaption><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"markdown\">\n<div>\n<div>\n<blockquote><p>\u200bThe chart shows the cyclicals vs. defensives relative performance line against the S&amp;P500. The key point is that cyclicals drove the last leg of the bull market, hence why I say this is basically the market&#8217;s Achilles&#8217; heel.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"markdown\">\n<blockquote><p>The cyclicals vs. defensives line takes the ratio of the equal weighted performance of cyclicals (materials, industrials, technology) vs. defensives (telecoms, utilities, healthcare). As this line seems to trend during the study period, I have added a linear trend line for analytical purposes (the indicator is stretched vs. trend also).<\/p>\n<p>As you can see on the chart, it&#8217;s been the solid performance of cyclicals relative to defensives that drove the last leg of the bull market. The extreme runup in the cyclicals vs. defensives relative performance line can unwind in one of two ways: 1. A bullish rotation: where the S&amp;P 500 heads higher but defensive sectors take the lead; or 2. A bearish rotation: where the S&amp;P 500 undergoes a correction\/bear market, and defensives simply fall less than cyclicals.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<p>\u2026click on the above link to read the rest of the article\u2026<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>An Eye on M1, Cyclicals, and Junk Bonds: What Matters? Rosenberg says &#8220;Keep an eye on M1&#8221;, others watch Cyclicals, and still others have an eye on junk bonds. An Eye on M1 View image on Twitter All of the monetary aggregates have slowed substantially, and real M1 growth\u00a0is flagging a 1% stall-speed growth economy [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[11150,1297,4519,16253,4520,14648,13390],"class_list":["post-36708","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-economics","tag-david-rosenberg","tag-junk-bonds","tag-m1","tag-m1-money","tag-m2","tag-michael-shedlock","tag-mishtalk"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/36708","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=36708"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/36708\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":36710,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/36708\/revisions\/36710"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=36708"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=36708"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=36708"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}