{"id":36502,"date":"2018-08-07T07:23:48","date_gmt":"2018-08-07T12:23:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/olduvai.ca\/?p=36502"},"modified":"2018-08-07T07:23:48","modified_gmt":"2018-08-07T12:23:48","slug":"debate-over-target2-continues-twilight-of-the-euro","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/?p=36502","title":{"rendered":"Debate Over Target2 Continues: Twilight of the Euro"},"content":{"rendered":"<header>\n<div class=\"story-header-area\">\n<div class=\"clearfix\">\n<div class=\"story-header\">\n<h3><a href=\"https:\/\/moneymaven.io\/mishtalk\/economics\/debate-over-target2-continues-twilight-of-the-euro-5Y0kAA_qMUG1cKgaI6IWQg\/\">Debate Over Target2 Continues: Twilight of the Euro<\/a><\/h3>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"photo\">\n<div class=\"renderable jss1544441 Center Large show\">\n<figure class=\"image\">\n<div class=\"jss1544267  picture\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" title=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2FN_q0WR3b_EKkDuvHBXhIFA\" srcset=\"https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2FN_q0WR3b_EKkDuvHBXhIFA?w=684&amp;q=75&amp;h=480.82115085536543&amp;auto=format&amp;fit=crop 1x, https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2FN_q0WR3b_EKkDuvHBXhIFA?w=1026&amp;q=75&amp;h=721&amp;auto=format&amp;fit=crop 1.5x, https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2FN_q0WR3b_EKkDuvHBXhIFA?w=1368&amp;q=75&amp;h=962&amp;auto=format&amp;fit=crop 2x, https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2FN_q0WR3b_EKkDuvHBXhIFA?w=2052&amp;q=75&amp;h=1442&amp;auto=format&amp;fit=crop 3x\" alt=\"\" width=\"684\" height=\"480.82115085536543\" \/><\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<section class=\"deck\">The Target2 debate continues. Eurointelligence Promotes Still More Silliness.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<\/div>\n<\/header>\n<article class=\"story-body clearfix\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"body\">\n<div class=\"markdown\">\n<div>\n<div>\n<p>I previously commented on Target2 in <a href=\"https:\/\/moneymaven.io\/mishtalk\/economics\/eurointelligence-displays-stunning-ignorance-regarding-target2-z4gxRI47k068w75di8QZtQ\/\">Eurointelligence Displays Stunning Ignorance Regarding Target2<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"markdown\">\n<div>\n<div>\n<blockquote><p>Eurointelligence blasts Faz for inaccuracies while spreading a pile of its own through the mouth of Mark Schieritz who says (translated) <a href=\"https:\/\/www.zeit.de\/wirtschaft\/2018-07\/europaeische-zentralbank-target-salden-populismus-insolvenz\"><strong>Do not be afraid of the trillions bomb<\/strong><\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Schieritz says: &#8220;<em>The claims and the liabilities are fictional quantities. They exist virtually, in the balance sheets of central banks, not in the real world<\/em>.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>One can stop there knowing full knowledge that Schieritz&#8217;s article is complete nonsense.<\/p>\n<p>In the real world, Target2 imbalances are a measure of capital flight and loans that cannot be paid back. Even if there once was adequate capital for loans made by Italian banks, that capital vanished long ago.<\/p>\n<p>Now, Italian depositors are very fearful of bail-ins and have pulled there money out of Italian banks.<\/p>\n<p>That is the &#8220;real world&#8221;. Real people have real fears, and they should. Anyone holding money in Italian banks is a fool. I gave the same warning about Greece well ahead of capital controls. I make the same case again now, regarding Italy.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"markdown\">\n<div>\n<div>\n<p><strong>New Eurointelligence Nonsense<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"markdown\">\n<div>\n<div>\n<p>Here are a couple of new clips from Eurointelligence to discuss.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"markdown\">\n<div>\n<div>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Against Target2 Hysteria<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Opens external link in new window\" href=\"http:\/\/www.faz.net\/aktuell\/finanzen\/finanzmarkt\/unberechtigte-panik-vor-italien-austritt-fuer-eurowaehrung-15712671.html?printPagedArticle=true#pageIndex_0\">Martin Hellwig<\/a> joins the debate on Frankfurter Allgemeine&#8217;s Sunday edition with a rejoinder to earlier columns by Hans Werner Sinn (which we covered) and Thomas Mayer (which we didn&#8217;t) on the danger to the Bundesbank from its near-trillion-euro claims on the eurosystem, and on the danger to the eurosystem from its near-half-trillion claims on the Bank of Italy. Hellwig argues that Sinn confuses deliberately with the smoke and mirrors of double-entry book-keeping, and is whipping up an unjustified panic over Target2.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\u2026click on the above link to read the rest of the article\u2026<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Debate Over Target2 Continues: Twilight of the Euro The Target2 debate continues. Eurointelligence Promotes Still More Silliness. I previously commented on Target2 in Eurointelligence Displays Stunning Ignorance Regarding Target2. Eurointelligence blasts Faz for inaccuracies while spreading a pile of its own through the mouth of Mark Schieritz who says (translated) Do not be afraid of [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[195,280,20884,281,21150,21149,13390,16902],"class_list":["post-36502","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-economics","tag-debt","tag-euro","tag-eurointelligence","tag-europe","tag-mark-schiertz","tag-micheal-shedlock","tag-mishtalk","tag-target2"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/36502","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=36502"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/36502\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":36503,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/36502\/revisions\/36503"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=36502"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=36502"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=36502"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}