{"id":31658,"date":"2018-02-27T07:22:23","date_gmt":"2018-02-27T12:22:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/olduvai.ca\/?p=31658"},"modified":"2018-02-27T07:22:23","modified_gmt":"2018-02-27T12:22:23","slug":"inflation-coming-how-about-deflation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/?p=31658","title":{"rendered":"Inflation Coming? How About Deflation?"},"content":{"rendered":"<header>\n<div class=\"story-header-area\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"story-header\">\n<h3><a href=\"https:\/\/www.themaven.net\/mishtalk\/economics\/inflation-coming-how-about-deflation-8_R3KXqzBEiEIU9oclp_qg\">Inflation Coming? How About Deflation?<\/a><\/h3>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"photo\">\n<div class=\"renderable configurableRenderable__3Z77r\">\n<figure class=\"image\">\n<div class=\"picture__28iqY picture loaded\">\n<div class=\"observable\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" title=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2F3xp5NbdhfEOo6S0QAuZ1hw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2F3xp5NbdhfEOo6S0QAuZ1hw?w=662&amp;q=75&amp;h=463.6644474034621&amp;auto=format&amp;fit=crop 1x, https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2F3xp5NbdhfEOo6S0QAuZ1hw?w=993&amp;q=75&amp;h=695&amp;auto=format&amp;fit=crop 1.5x, https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2F3xp5NbdhfEOo6S0QAuZ1hw?w=1324&amp;q=75&amp;h=927&amp;auto=format&amp;fit=crop 2x, https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2F3xp5NbdhfEOo6S0QAuZ1hw?w=1986&amp;q=75&amp;h=1391&amp;auto=format&amp;fit=crop 3x \" alt=\"\" width=\"662\" height=\"463.6644474034621\" \/><\/div>\n<\/div><figcaption><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-summary\">\n<div class=\"publish-info\">\n<div class=\"authorCard authorCard__SfNCX\">\n<div class=\"picture__28iqY false picture loaded\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"toolsMenu__1zgs3 toolsMenu\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<section class=\"deck\">Economists expect higher inflation based on rising producer prices. But will producer prices feed consumer prices? When?<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<\/div>\n<\/header>\n<article class=\"story-body clearfix\">\n<div class=\"body\">\n<div class=\"markdown\">\n<div>\n<div>\n<p>Do producer prices eventually feed into consumer prices? If so, what&#8217;s the lead or lag time?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"markdown\">\n<div>\n<div>\n<p>The Wall Street Journal article <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.wsj.com\/economics\/2018\/02\/23\/why-the-inflation-picture-looks-starkly-different-for-businesses-and-consumers\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Why the Inflation Picture Looks Starkly Different for Businesses and Consumers<\/a> got me thinking about these questions and I do not believe they came up with the correct answer.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"markdown\">\n<blockquote><p>This month consumers said they expected a 2.7% rise in inflation over the next year, a level unchanged since December, according to the University of Michigan\u2019s latest sentiment survey.<\/p>\n<p>Other survey data indicate businesses are feeling inflationary pressures. Take, for instance, the rising percentage of executives in the Institute for Supply Management\u2019s manufacturing survey who say they\u2019re paying higher prices for materials: In January, 46.6% reported higher prices, up from 42% a year earlier.<\/p>\n<p>Households\u2019 inflation expectations tend to lag behind the behavior of inflation itself, which means as consumer prices rise, inflation expectations for this group should rise, too, said Michael Pearce, economist at Capital Economics.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div class=\"renderable configurableRenderable__3Z77r\">\n<figure class=\"image\">\n<div class=\"picture__28iqY picture loaded\">\n<div class=\"observable\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" title=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2Fom91dxeZ4kiuikDxMiLSeg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2Fom91dxeZ4kiuikDxMiLSeg?w=662&amp;q=75&amp;h=472.98511502029766&amp;auto=format&amp;fit=crop 1x, https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2Fom91dxeZ4kiuikDxMiLSeg?w=993&amp;q=75&amp;h=709&amp;auto=format&amp;fit=crop 1.5x, https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2Fom91dxeZ4kiuikDxMiLSeg?w=1324&amp;q=75&amp;h=946&amp;auto=format&amp;fit=crop 2x, https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2Fom91dxeZ4kiuikDxMiLSeg?w=1986&amp;q=75&amp;h=1419&amp;auto=format&amp;fit=crop 3x \" alt=\"\" width=\"662\" height=\"472.98511502029766\" \/><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"markdown\">\n<div>\n<div>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cWe\u2019ve seen pickups in producer-price inflation before that haven\u2019t really fed through to higher consumer prices, but there are good reasons to expect that the story this time around could be a bit different,\u201d Mr. Pearce said. This, he said, is because a whole slew of factors are converging to put pressure on business prices and ultimately consumer inflation, a divergence from some past patterns when oil was the main driver.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"markdown\">\n<div>\n<div>\n<p><strong>Lagging the Leader or Noise?<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"markdown\">\n<div>\n<div>\n<p>The above chart is easily creatable in Fred. Here is a longer term view.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"markdown\">\n<div class=\"markdown\">\n<div>\n<div>\n<p><strong>Cope PPI vs Core CPI<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"renderable configurableRenderable__3Z77r\">\n<figure class=\"image\">\n<div class=\"picture__28iqY picture loaded\">\n<div class=\"observable\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" title=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2Ft4lfVyVtuUmoIbRgmXilUA\" srcset=\"https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2Ft4lfVyVtuUmoIbRgmXilUA?w=662&amp;q=75&amp;h=312.13471502590676&amp;auto=format&amp;fit=crop 1x, https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2Ft4lfVyVtuUmoIbRgmXilUA?w=993&amp;q=75&amp;h=468&amp;auto=format&amp;fit=crop 1.5x, https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2Ft4lfVyVtuUmoIbRgmXilUA?w=1324&amp;q=75&amp;h=624&amp;auto=format&amp;fit=crop 2x, https:\/\/imageproxy.themaven.net\/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Fmaven-user-photos%2Fmishtalk%2Feconomics%2FzmfATcSa4EegwR7v_znq6Q%2Ft4lfVyVtuUmoIbRgmXilUA?w=1986&amp;q=75&amp;h=936&amp;auto=format&amp;fit=crop 3x \" alt=\"\" width=\"662\" height=\"312.13471502590676\" \/><\/div>\n<\/div><figcaption><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"markdown\">\n<div>\n<div>\n<p>The overall correlation seems easy to spot but it was far stronger prior to 1988. Since then movement seems somewhat random.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"markdown\">\n<div>\n<div>\n<p>I expected the divergences to be oil-related but they do not all seem to be.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"markdown\">\n<p>&#8230;click on the above link to read the rest of the article&#8230;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Inflation Coming? How About Deflation? Economists expect higher inflation based on rising producer prices. But will producer prices feed consumer prices? When? Do producer prices eventually feed into consumer prices? If so, what&#8217;s the lead or lag time? The Wall Street Journal article Why the Inflation Picture Looks Starkly Different for Businesses and Consumers got [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[2026,202,426,14648,13390,18977],"class_list":["post-31658","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-economics","tag-consumer-prices","tag-deflation","tag-inflation","tag-michael-shedlock","tag-mishtalk","tag-producer-prices"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/31658","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=31658"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/31658\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":31659,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/31658\/revisions\/31659"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=31658"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=31658"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=31658"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}