{"id":2941,"date":"2014-12-13T12:54:44","date_gmt":"2014-12-13T17:54:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/olduvai.ca\/?p=2941"},"modified":"2014-12-13T12:54:44","modified_gmt":"2014-12-13T17:54:44","slug":"the-oil-market-actually-works-and-that-hurts-the-automatic-earth","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/?p=2941","title":{"rendered":"The Oil Market Actually Works, And That Hurts &#8211; The Automatic Earth"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.theautomaticearth.com\/the-oil-market-actually-works-and-that-hurts\/\">The Oil Market Actually Works, And That Hurts &#8211; The Automatic Earth<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; text-align: left; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">Please allow me to revert back again a little to what I wrote earlier today in\u00a0<a style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; text-decoration: none; color: #528f6c; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.theautomaticearth.com\/will-oil-kill-the-zombies\/\" target=\"new\"><span style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; color: #ff2222; font-weight: bold; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">Will Oil Kill The Zombies?<\/span><\/a>\u00a0I think we need to be clear on what\u2019s going on here. The oil market actually works. And that\u2019s a rarity in today\u2019s world of manipulated everything, of no mark to market, of huge stock buybacks financed by zero interest rates, you know the story.<\/p>\n<p style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; text-align: left; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">We know that the market works because of for instance this article from CNBC:<\/p>\n<p style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; text-align: left; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em 20px; border: 0px initial initial;\"><a style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; text-decoration: none; color: #528f6c; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.cnbc.com\/id\/102262289?trknav=homestack:topnews:9\" target=\"new\"><span style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; color: #ff2222; font-weight: bold; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">Oil Pressure Could Sock It To Stocks<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 1em; background-image: url('http:\/\/www.theautomaticearth.com\/wp-content\/themes\/suffusion\/images\/blockquote-l.png'); background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; text-indent: 2em; border-top-left-radius: 5px; border-top-right-radius: 5px; border-bottom-right-radius: 5px; border-bottom-left-radius: 5px; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat; padding: 10px 15px 10px 15px; margin: 0px 3em 1em 3em; border: 0px none initial;\">\n<p style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; text-align: left; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\"><i style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">\u201cOil has pretty much spooked people,\u201d said Daniel Greenhaus, chief global strategist at BTIG. \u201cThere just isn\u2019t a bid. With everything in energy and the oil price collapsing as it is, who is going to step in and be a buyer now? The answer is nobody.\u201d<\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; text-align: left; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">b&gt;\u201dIt\u2019s (oil) actually much weaker than the futures markets indicate. This is true for crude oil, and it\u2019s true for gasoline. There\u2019s a little bit of a desperation in the crude market,\u201d said Kloza.\u201dThe\u00a0<b style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">Canadian crude, if you go into the oil sands, is in the $30s<\/b>, and you talk about Western Canadian Select\u00a0<b style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">heavy crude upgrade that comes out of Canada, it\u2019s at $41\/$42 a barrel.<\/b>\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; text-align: left; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\"><b style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">\u201cBakken is probably about $54.\u201d<\/b>\u00a0Kloza said\u00a0<b style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">there\u2019s some talk that Venezuelan heavy crude is seeing prices $20 to $22 less than Brent<\/b>, the international benchmark. Brent futures were at $63.20 per barrel late Thursday.<\/p>\n<p style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; text-align: left; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\"><i style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\"><b style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">\u201cIn the actual physical market, it\u2019s fallen by even more than the futures market. That\u2019s a telling sign, and it\u2019s telling me that this isn\u2019t over yet. This isn\u2019t the bottoming process. The physical market turns before the futures<\/b>,\u201d he said.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; text-align: left; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">It\u2019s not about where WTI and Brent are at any given moment. Even if WTI is down another 3.60% today so far at $57.79. Whatever WTI tells us, the real world out there trumps it by a mile and a half. The prices at which oil actually sells in the real world are way below WTO and Brent standards, a very big and scary development. There are tons of parties that will sell at any price they can get. There is no better way to drive prices down further, it\u2019s a vicious circle down a drain.<\/p>\n<p style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; text-align: left; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\"><!-- [if gte mso 9]><xml>\n <w:WordDocument>\n  <w:Zoom>0<\/w:Zoom>\n  <w:DisplayHorizontalDrawingGridEvery>0<\/w:DisplayHorizontalDrawingGridEvery>\n  <w:DisplayVerticalDrawingGridEvery>0<\/w:DisplayVerticalDrawingGridEvery>\n  <w:UseMarginsForDrawingGridOrigin\/>\n <\/w:WordDocument>\n<\/xml><![endif]--> <!--StartFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 13.0pt; font-family: LucidaGrande; color: #282828;\">&#8230;click on the above link to read the rest of the article&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; text-align: left; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\"><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Oil Market Actually Works, And That Hurts &#8211; The Automatic Earth. 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