{"id":26597,"date":"2017-10-09T07:38:21","date_gmt":"2017-10-09T12:38:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/olduvai.ca\/?p=26597"},"modified":"2017-10-09T07:38:21","modified_gmt":"2017-10-09T12:38:21","slug":"diem25-europe-without-nations-or-religion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/?p=26597","title":{"rendered":"DiEM25: Europe Without Nations or Religion"},"content":{"rendered":"<header class=\"post-header title-container fix\">\n<div class=\"title\">\n<h3 class=\"posttitle\"><a class=\"entry-title\" title=\"DiEM25: Europe Without Nations or Religion\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theautomaticearth.com\/2017\/10\/diem25-europe-without-nations-or-religion\/\" rel=\"bookmark\">DiEM25: Europe Without Nations or Religion<\/a><span style=\"color: #333333; font-size: 16px;\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<\/div>\n<\/header>\n<div class=\"entry-container fix\">\n<div class=\"entry fix\">\n<div class=\"ssba ssba-wrap\"><\/div>\n<p><center><a href=\"http:\/\/3r8md7174doo44lgpk3kou79-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/FREDLYONBarbaryCoast1950-580.jpg\" target=\"new\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/3r8md7174doo44lgpk3kou79-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/FREDLYONBarbaryCoast1950-580.jpg\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nFred Lyon <b>Barbary Coast <\/b>1950<\/center>A friend sent me a post from the DiEM25 website last week, entitled <a href=\"https:\/\/www.diem25.org\/forum\/viewtopic.php?f=37&amp;t=14974\" target=\"new\">Critique of DiEM25 policy on immigrants and refugees<\/a>. DiEM25 is a pan-European political movement of which former Greek finance minister Yanis Varoufakis is a co-founder.<\/p>\n<p>I started writing some lines as a response to my friend. Then it became a bit more. Wouldn\u2019t you know\u2026 And then it was a whole article. So here\u2019s my comments to it first, and then the original by someone calling themselves \u2018dross22\u2032. Now, in case I haven\u2019t made this sufficiently abundantly clear yet, in my view Yanis\u2019 knowledge and intellect is probably far superior to mine, and I\u2019m a fan. But\u2026<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t mean to imply that the views in the comment posted at DiEM25 are those of Yanis, but I do think it\u2019s good to point out that these views exist within the movement. Moreover, as I wrote a few days ago, Yanis himself also thinks the EU should become \u2018a federal state\u2019. And I don\u2019t agree with that. In fact, I think that\u2019s a sure-fire way to absolute mayhem. Catalonia is only the latest example of why that is. Greece is an obvious other.<\/p>\n<p>From that post on the DiEM25 site (see full text below):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i>[..] .. local European nationalism must be eradicated by creating a common European state. But a progressive European state would inevitably require a sense of identity that, in true progressive spirit, is radically opposed to religion. It would be hypocrisy to exclude Islam. Pluralism of values is a weapon of the establishment and we have to do away with it. In a Europe that is green nobody can afford pluralism in regards to lifestyle choices.<\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&#8230;click on the above link to read the rest of the article&#8230;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>DiEM25: Europe Without Nations or Religion Fred Lyon Barbary Coast 1950A friend sent me a post from the DiEM25 website last week, entitled Critique of DiEM25 policy on immigrants and refugees. DiEM25 is a pan-European political movement of which former Greek finance minister Yanis Varoufakis is a co-founder. I started writing some lines as a [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[5,6],"tags":[95,1670,16360,279,1537,3318,1047,16361,13924,1310,5177,3138],"class_list":["post-26597","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-geopolitics","category-liberty","tag-brussels","tag-centralization","tag-diem25","tag-eu","tag-immigration","tag-merkel","tag-nationalism","tag-pluralism","tag-raul-ilargi-meijer","tag-religion","tag-the-automatic-earth","tag-varoufakis"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/26597","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=26597"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/26597\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":26598,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/26597\/revisions\/26598"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=26597"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=26597"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=26597"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}