{"id":23258,"date":"2017-03-13T17:04:44","date_gmt":"2017-03-13T22:04:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/olduvai.ca\/?p=23258"},"modified":"2017-03-13T17:04:44","modified_gmt":"2017-03-13T22:04:44","slug":"raising-interest-rates-cant-end-well","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/?p=23258","title":{"rendered":"Raising Interest Rates Can\u2019t End Well!"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3 class=\"entry-title\"><a href=\"https:\/\/ourfiniteworld.com\/2017\/03\/13\/raising-interest-rates-cant-end-well\/\" rel=\"bookmark\">Raising Interest Rates Can\u2019t End\u00a0Well!<\/a><\/h3>\n<div class=\"entry-meta\">The Federal Reserve would like to raise target interest rates because of inflation concerns and concern that asset bubbles are forming. Part of their concern seems to arise indirectly from the rise in oil prices, relative to their low level in early 2016.<\/div>\n<div class=\"entry-content\">\n<div id=\"attachment_41651\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" data-shortcode=\"caption\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com\/2017\/03\/wsj-signs-pointing-to-a-rate-increase.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-41651\" src=\"https:\/\/gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com\/2017\/03\/wsj-signs-pointing-to-a-rate-increase.jpg?w=640&amp;h=474\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com\/2017\/03\/wsj-signs-pointing-to-a-rate-increase.jpg?w=640&amp;h=474 640x, https:\/\/gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com\/2017\/03\/wsj-signs-pointing-to-a-rate-increase.jpg?w=150&amp;h=111 150x, https:\/\/gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com\/2017\/03\/wsj-signs-pointing-to-a-rate-increase.jpg?w=300&amp;h=222 300x, https:\/\/gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com\/2017\/03\/wsj-signs-pointing-to-a-rate-increase.jpg 700x\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"474\" data-attachment-id=\"41651\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/ourfiniteworld.com\/?attachment_id=41651\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com\/2017\/03\/wsj-signs-pointing-to-a-rate-increase.jpg?w=640&amp;h=474\" data-orig-size=\"700,518\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"WSJ signs pointing to a rate increase\" data-image-description=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com\/2017\/03\/wsj-signs-pointing-to-a-rate-increase.jpg?w=640&amp;h=474?w=300\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com\/2017\/03\/wsj-signs-pointing-to-a-rate-increase.jpg?w=640&amp;h=474?w=640\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Figure 1. WSJ figure indicating likely reasons for rate hike.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>A finite world does not behave the way most modelers expect. Interest rates that worked perfectly well in the past, don\u2019t necessarily work well now. Oil prices that worked perfectly well in the past don\u2019t necessarily work well now. It seems to me that raising interest rates at this time is very ill advised.\u00a0These are a few of the issues I see:<\/p>\n<p><strong>[1] The economy is now incredibly dependent upon rising debt to prop up its spending.<\/strong>\u00a0The pattern of total debt to GDP for the United States is shown in Figure 2.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_41690\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" data-shortcode=\"caption\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com\/2017\/03\/debt-to-gdp-ratios2.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-41690\" src=\"https:\/\/gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com\/2017\/03\/debt-to-gdp-ratios2.png?w=640&amp;h=383\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com\/2017\/03\/debt-to-gdp-ratios2.png?w=640&amp;h=383 640x, https:\/\/gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com\/2017\/03\/debt-to-gdp-ratios2.png?w=150&amp;h=90 150x, https:\/\/gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com\/2017\/03\/debt-to-gdp-ratios2.png?w=300&amp;h=180 300x, https:\/\/gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com\/2017\/03\/debt-to-gdp-ratios2.png 768x\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"383\" data-attachment-id=\"41690\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/ourfiniteworld.com\/2017\/03\/13\/raising-interest-rates-cant-end-well\/debt-to-gdp-ratios-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com\/2017\/03\/debt-to-gdp-ratios2.png?w=640&amp;h=383\" data-orig-size=\"768,460\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Debt to GDP Ratios\" data-image-description=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com\/2017\/03\/debt-to-gdp-ratios2.png?w=640&amp;h=383?w=300\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com\/2017\/03\/debt-to-gdp-ratios2.png?w=640&amp;h=383?w=640\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Figure 2. United States\u2019 debt to GDP ratios based on Federal Reserve Z1 data and BEA GDP data. The red line represents the increase over the latest three years.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>There was a huge increase in debt in the period leading up to the 2008 crash. Every year between 2001 and 2008, the increase in debt was greater than four times the increase in GDP. In fact, for some years in that period, more than $8 of debt were added for every dollar of GDP added.<\/p>\n<p>We now seem to be starting a new run up in debt. In 2015, the amount of debt added was $2.5 trillion ($66.1 trillion minus $63.6 trillion), while the amount of GDP added was only $529 million. This indicates a ratio of over 4.7 for the single year of 2016. (Figure 2 shows only three-year averages, because of the volatility of amounts.)<span id=\"more-41672\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&#8230;click on the above link to read the rest of the article&#8230;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Raising Interest Rates Can\u2019t End\u00a0Well! The Federal Reserve would like to raise target interest rates because of inflation concerns and concern that asset bubbles are forming. Part of their concern seems to arise indirectly from the rise in oil prices, relative to their low level in early 2016. Figure 1. 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