{"id":15769,"date":"2015-12-29T13:13:03","date_gmt":"2015-12-29T18:13:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/olduvai.ca\/?p=15769"},"modified":"2015-12-29T13:13:03","modified_gmt":"2015-12-29T18:13:03","slug":"lets-define-degrowth-before-we-dismiss-it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/olduvai.ca\/?p=15769","title":{"rendered":"Let\u2019s define Degrowth before we dismiss it"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3><a href=\"http:\/\/www.unevenearth.org\/?p=972\" target=\"_blank\">Let\u2019s define Degrowth before we dismiss it<\/a><\/h3>\n<p class=\"subtitle\"><strong>The reluctance of degrowth-critics to define growth makes for poor debate<\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"filed-under\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.unevenearth.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/12\/triptych.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-975\" src=\"http:\/\/www.unevenearth.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/12\/triptych.jpg\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.unevenearth.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/12\/triptych-300x135.jpg 300x, http:\/\/www.unevenearth.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/12\/triptych-305x137.jpg 305x, http:\/\/www.unevenearth.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/12\/triptych.jpg 792x\" alt=\"Diverse commentators such as Samuel Farber, Paul Krugman, and Leigh Phillips are arguing that economic growth is necessary to protect existing, and future well-being. \" width=\"600\" height=\"270\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div id=\"post-972\" class=\"article\">\n<div id=\"attachment_975\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\">\n<p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Diverse leftist commentators such as Samuel Farber, Paul Krugman, and Leigh Phillips are arguing that economic growth is necessary to protect existing and future well-being. But rarely do they define what they mean by economic growth.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Recently there\u2019s been a wave of arguments defending economic growth from a leftist perspective. People are increasingly reacting to the rise of \u2018degrowth\u2019: a diverse movement calling for, among other things, scaling back the total material and energy use of the global economy.<\/p>\n<p>One particularly vigorous example is the work of Leigh Phillips, where he accuses degrowthers\u2014who he claims have become \u201chegemonic\u201d (file under: things I wish were true but aren\u2019t)\u2014of undermining classic leftist pursuits such as progress, well-being, and strengthening of social services. Similar arguments could be seen in a recent\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.jacobinmag.com\/2015\/11\/progress-ep-thompson-walter-benjamin-enlightenment-farber-cuba-frankfurt-school\/\">article<\/a>\u00a0that appeared in Jacobin Magazine, in which growth was posited as necessary for progress. And Keynesian economists like Paul Krugman have\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/krugman.blogs.nytimes.com\/2014\/10\/07\/slow-steaming-and-the-supposed-limits-to-growth\/\">come out<\/a>\u00a0against degrowth, claiming that economic growth is actually necessary to address climate change, and lumping degrowthers together with the Koch Brothers, as they both seem to seek to dismantle the state.<\/p>\n<div class=\"simplePullQuote\">\n<hr \/>\n<p>When two sides of an argument have a totally different definition of the concept that\u2019s being debated, and if one side even refuses to define it, constructive discussions tend to turn into uncompromising squabbles.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Many of their points have been valid and necessary\u2014serving to complicate the simplistic \u2018are-you-for-capitalism-or-a-Luddite?\u2019 narrative. Preaching the benefits of technology and criticizing the current economic system are not mutually exclusive. But there are some\u00a0recurring problems with these arguments that I want to highlight.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;click on the above link to read the rest of the article&#8230;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Let\u2019s define Degrowth before we dismiss it The reluctance of degrowth-critics to define growth makes for poor debate Diverse leftist commentators such as Samuel Farber, Paul Krugman, and Leigh Phillips are arguing that economic growth is necessary to protect existing and future well-being. But rarely do they define what they mean by economic growth. 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